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launching and recovering can be tricky at some venues, you may have to get wet! I know Frensham guys launch and return to pontoons so expect to stay dry all the time. Bit of a shock for them having to wade in to launch.
Coming ashore in waves can be an issue, make sure you can get your main down or if in a laser type drop the knot to make things safer. Dont furl your jib and leave the main up. drop the main and come in under jib or bare poles if its a single hander in an onshore breeze.
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May not be entirely relevant but if you go sailing at sea without rescue cover It is good to sail with a buddy, also carry a waterproof VHF, mobile signals can be dodgy offshore, and it is easier to operate a VHF than fumble with a mobile phone
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When I first sailed on the sea, as a young lad in a topper, one thing frustrated me more than anything. Not being able to leave my trolley half immersed. 

Leaving the trolley on the beach is a King Knut form of bluff with the tide. Always trying to guess it placement so it's left just within reach on return. Inevitably its 100m up the beach, or better still, swept out in to Solent. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 20 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by Gordon 1430

launching and recovering can be tricky at some venues, you may have to get wet! I know Frensham guys launch and return to pontoons so expect to stay dry all the time. Bit of a shock for them having to wade in to launch.
Coming ashore in waves can be an issue, make sure you can get your main down or if in a laser type drop the knot to make things safer. Dont furl your jib and leave the main up. drop the main and come in under jib or bare poles if its a single hander in an onshore breeze.

Indeed, our Frensham jetties are very civilised, particularly in winter, but not as unique as the crane we used to lower our Mirrors into the river Fowey when i was a kid. The H&S mafia would go mad with that nowadays, but back in the day the only person injured by the crane was the adult supposed to keep an eye on us


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Post Options Post Options   Quote patj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 20 at 10:17am
As puddle sailors who rarely sail on the sea and then only in organised racing, I'd say the things to note are:
1. Follow the beachmaster's instructions especially where to leave trolley and remember to tally in and out.
2. Current, especially around marks - sometimes they need a far wider berth because of the current pushing you. Keep especially clear of the big solid channel markers.
3. Follow safety instructions given in SI and at briefing. Usually dropping main means you need help and safety boat will come to you.
4. Don't worry about being last man at the back - someone has to and the RO will often stop you a lap short of the leaders if it saves him waiting for you. That saves your energy!
5. Take drinks and food - it's a long day. We've had 7 hours from launch to back onshore with three back to back races and sailing in and out to course at Weymouth for example.
6. Don't be afraid to ask about things.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 20 at 11:35am
Originally posted by patj

We've had 7 hours from launch to back onshore with three back to back races and sailing in and out to course at Weymouth for example.


That's nothing short of outrageous.

Not exactly enhancing the fun of the sport, no wonder travelling was in decline even before the plague.

Nothing much more to add to what everyone else has said about the sea v the lake, I find the sea can be very boring compared to the more frenetic action in close quarter small lake sailing.

The only real issues are the transition from land to water and back depending on the facilitys they can be so very different, sailing at Weymouth for instance (In the harbour)aint that much different from Grafham other than the tidal currents which can be quite confusing there.

Then sailing at places like Portishead for instance can be very testing due to the speed of the current and down at Hayling coming in over the bar used to be interesting shall we say at certain tidal states, but the key is to relax and stay clam, even if the boat does turn the wrong way up, never panic, it's only water with a salty taste, just carry on the same routine for self prervation you would inland.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote GarethT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 20 at 2:20pm
There are lots of different 'types' of sea. Launching in Chichester Harbour is very different to somewhere like Lancing for example, so you can pick your venues to ease yourself into it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote epicfail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 20 at 6:10pm
My daughter was at Uni in Portsmouth until earlier this year (as was I some 30 years ago) now she is in Gosport. Last year I watched a race from Locks Sailing Club in Langstone harbour - looks like a lovely place to sail. Stokes Bay looks interesting too, maybe next year I'll take the plunge somewhere  Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GarethT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 20 at 9:24pm
You can 'pay and play' at the Andrew Simpson centre there if you want to give it a go without the faff of packing your boat up.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 20 at 6:01pm
We do winters inland in the 200, always good to be back on the salty stuff but first couple of sails I'm wobbling around in the back and usually end up on my rse gybing.
Enjoy, much better IMO.
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